Psalms 139:12, 1 Chronicles 21:1-2 and 2 Samuel 24:1-2, and Job 1:8-12, 42:11 all confuse good and evil, God and Satan into one single creative force, with God being described as not only the source of evil, but as its actual instigator. At first the donkey merely resists because God sends an invisible angel to stand in their way, that only the donkey can see. Any argument that asserts that evil is … Everybody Hates Hades, God of Evil, God Is Inept, God Is Flawed, Order Is Not Good. In Job 1:11 it is God who is asked "put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face". Answer: The web site evilbible.com endeavors to do two things: (1) demonstrate that the Bible is not the Word of God, but instead is only a book written by “evil” men, and (2) disprove the God of Christianity. The Old Testament describes God as angry, fearsome, destructive and vengeful. When David Plotz set out to read every word of the Old Testament, he discovered gruesome smitings, rampant misogyny, and a God who’s a lot like Donald Trump. Is God Evil? God is the supreme value in the universe, and therefore, evil is defined with reference to this ultimate reality, ultimate value, ultimate treasure. So, Satan acts only when God gives it power to do so. Deuteronomy 7:1 tells the Israelites to occupy their future land and exterminate the original inhabitants because they are infidels: "you're to make no compromise with them or show them any mercy". He talks to The Daily Beast about what his Biblical journey begat. An e-book. No, these messages are not really aimed at children but at adults, telling us to obey God, the ultimate father-figure, else we suffer the consequences. I realized that the God of the Hebrew Bible is a very difficult character. To allow evil and wrongdoing to go unpunished would indeed be cruel and would indicate a callousness toward the innocent. The author of Good Book talks to The Daily Beast about what his Biblical journey begat. Any moral person would have sternly told Abraham that he, whole scheme of the life of Jesus does not add up, learnt much about human neurology and we know many of the physiological and neurological causes of visions, Experiences of God are Illusions, Derived from Malfunctioning Psychological Processes, mistranslations of important Biblical verses have misinformed the masses on even important points, such as whether Jesus' mother was a virgin or not, God's Methods of Communication: Universal Truth Versus Hebrew and Arabic, Religions that fight each other tend to make their adherents believe in them even more strongly, evil and suffering exist. In continual deviance from what a good god would do, and feel, the God of the Old Testament sometimes repents of its own actions and thoughts. Sometimes we … If that is what God is, then why would you want to have a God like that? They affirm that God is not just, not moral, and is actively evil and arbitrary. What had happened is that God had a rule: That David was not allowed to 'number' Israel. Deuteronomy 13:6-9 says that if your relatives or friends try to get you to worship other gods, you must kill them "without mercy" - a deed that Abraham attempts in Genesis 22:1-18. When Jacob complains about this, they say, “What, you want our sister to be treated like a whore?”. We know that God uses evil to discipline people (Prov. When David Plotz, the editor of Slate, opened to Page 1 of the Old Testament, he had no idea what he was getting himself into. There is no grand moral plan to god's will. the wrong religion, then I am sure that this particular verse would be the first to be overlooked. There are persons who gloss over evil deeds and evil habits by fair-sounding names, who call cowardice caution, and rashness courage, stinginess thrift, and wasteful profusion generosity. 15:32). Published by Morningstar & Lark, Windermere, FL, USA. Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. The tradition in Judaism, and I think Good Book is distinctly part of this, because everything is so difficult and morally confusing, we just spend a lot of time arguing about it. Examining Exodus, Ecclesiastes 7, Ephesians 1, Ephesians 2, Matthew 5:45, Acts 13, Romans 8, Roman 9, 2 Timothy, 2 Thessalonians, Titus 3:4-5 and Revelations, we see that God's plan overrides our free will; those that do good do the specific good that God predestined them to do, and all others are ruled by Satan because God sends "powerful delusions" to them. It is never the will of our good God for us to sin: “God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone” (James 1:13). Satan can't do anything except by the will of God. Multiple authors, a compendium of multiple previously published books, Bad Faith: The Danger of Religious Extremism, The Phenomenon Of Religion: A Thematic Approach. Luke 2:41-49 tells a story of a 12-year-old Jesus; he wonders off for three days and his parents search for him, before finding him in a temple. All those evil effects of sin continue to work in the world and will be with us as long as sin is. Some of the foremost Christians in history have taught that there is no free will, including St. Augustine15 (one of the founders of Western Christianity), Martin Luther (founder of Protestantism) and John Calvin (founder of Calvinism).”, "Biblical Christianity Denies Free Will" by Vexen Crabtree (2005). As is stated above, there are many aspects to this issue of allowing evil, including free will, the degree of evil, the definition of evil, how much evil ought God stop, etc. A paperback book. Who, when it comes to the concluding of the story in chapter 42, is given the credit for bringing evil against Job? But god does not do this. As various authors copied copies of the Hebrew Scriptures, changes accumulated in the stories. God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. For example, Emperor Theodosius tricked, trapped and murdered several thousand civilians from Thessalonia, and when his Bishop complained, he argued that he was acting as did David from the Old Testament5,6. Then, God's ambiguous whisperings make more sense. Then he is not omnipotent. That all life exists in a food chain means that life is completely tied to death, and such a barbaric biological cycle could only have been made by an evil god. And henceforth, Christian history contains many unfortunate chapters where Christian groups anathematized one another as heretics, and proceeded to burn, torture and murder those who disagreed. A paperback book. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.”, “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? First of all, He was the oldest male child born of Kronos. Bible verses about God Is Not Evil. Surely [an unfeared God] is neither your Father, towards whom your love for duty's sake should be consistent with fear because of His power; nor your proper Lord, whom you should love for His humanity and fear as your teacher.”, The Adam and Eve story shows god as an immoral bad parent, not as a loving God (2006). They exclaim to him that they've been looking for him sorrowfully, and his cold response is covered by the last two verses of that story: "How is it that ye sought me? Did God create evil, or is God Himself evil? Since we are not on Jupiter, we can infer that God is not morally evil. Numbers 12:6 has God say "Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I, the Lord, will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream". Jesus and Mary, His Mother: Not a Single Positive Comment in the Bible" by Vexen Crabtree (2019). Does Evil Argue Against God? Genesis furnishes us with some additional horror in the stories of Lot and his family who lived in Sodom, and, of Abraham and his precious first son Isaac. Hille, Rolf(2016) "A Biblical-Theological Response to the Problem of Theodicy in the Context of the Modem Criticism of Religion". The immoral doctrine of original sin, where children are punished for the sins of their parents is hardly the scheme of a moral god. Therefore God does not exist, is not all-powerful or is not benevolent (good)17. I was raised in Reform Judaism—I was in tune to it. But you can't have that in a nontheistic worldview. Amazon Kindle digital edition. Evil is an imperfection, lack or void in God's creation. Epicurus — ‘Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? There seems to be some contradiction between these three propositions, so that if any two of them were true, the third would be false. Qualities like compassion, empathy, kindness, selflessness, gentleness, benevolence, etc. But it does make sense if the God of the Bible is evil. Some justifications that mankind was attempting to steal God's power or aiming to be like God (i.e. The Problem of Evil: Why Would a Good God Create Suffering? 6:2, 31:12-13, Joshua 4:24, Psalms 96:4, Proverbs 24:21, Ecc. They base them on a sense of morality that God … 2000 edition. Genesis, Chapter 1 has this famous beginning: God created the earth. A force working in opposition to an equal and contradictory force of good. We are inspired by everything we perceive as good all the time. Monotheistic religions Christianity So, an evil God would appear to mankind in a variety of guises and preach a number of powerful, but conflicting, religions. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father ... and a man's foes shall be they of his own household" (Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 12:51-53). Normally, after a skeptic has lost all hope of defending their belief that the Bible contains errors they resort to moral arguments against God. God is certainly sovereign over evil. Published by Bison Books, London, UK. Even in the twentieth century, Pope Leo XII argued for violence and murder, based on religion: “The death sentence is a necessary and efficacious means for the Church to attain its end when rebels act against it and disturbers of the ecclesiastical unity, especially obstinate heretics and heresiarchs, cannot be restrained by any other penalty. If you think it is far-fetched to say that the Christian god intentionally causes confusion and division, and is therefore evil, then perhaps one more story of the Bible will help, from Genesis chapter 11: 1Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. To allow evil and wrongdoing to go unpunished would indeed be cruel and would indicate a callousness toward the innocent. A similar confusion of roles happens in the Book of Job. Those who advance this challenge assert that, unless there is a satisfactory answer to the challenge, there is no reason to accept God is good or … While they’re recovering from the surgery, in pain and incapacitated, Jacob’s sons show up and slaughter them. Both of these ac And then, in Chapter 2, he creates it all again, and he creates man again, and he does it in a completely different way. Some are evil gods of the underworld, and some exist to torment humanity. ", : 7.2. All of God’s creation is good, evil is a lack of being and goodness. Does Evil Argue Against God? Is he both able and willing? If I were a biblical literalist—and thank God I’m not—I would have no idea how I would make sense of this because there are two creations. Jesus cared so little for his family that he never sent them messages informing what he was up to even when he was in their immediate locality. For example in Job 42:11 God is described as doing evil to Job as part of its test of Job even though Job is described as holy and blameless. Throughout the Old Testament, male children are promised by God as the ultimate reward, women are often unable to bear children (but this fate never happens to men). Both good and evil exist by God’s will, and it is not our right to question him. The whole scheme of the life of Jesus does not add up, and it is very hard to reconcile it with the plans of an all-knowing, good God. Biblical morality so stunted ethical thinking that "the third century Church Father, Tertullian, could not imagine how God could not demand fear"3: “But how are you going to love, without some fear that you do not love? 2:4), but that raises another question: If God sent the evil spirit, how is Saul responsible for trying to kill David? Hades is a god that was misunderstood. This does not imply at all that God is the author of evil. [...], 4Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth. None of this is good, yet we have 81 percent of white evangelicals who have supported and called out what is evil as being good. Rather, evil is the absence of goodness; it is whatever God is not. I would start with the uneducated and the poor. The second time, at the feast in Cana, Jesus says to his mum, "Woman, what have I to do with thee?". For thousands of years, mistranslations of important Biblical verses have misinformed the masses on even important points, such as whether Jesus' mother was a virgin or not. - Woe unto them that call evil good. The first time is the story above, where he reprimands her for not guessing where he was (when he was 12). One resolution to the problem of evil is that God is not good. Evil God Challenge. In case we doubt God's judgement of Lot, Lot then goes and has children by both of his daughters, The story of Abraham and Isaac in Genesis chapter 22 has Abraham obey the voices in his head which tell him to murder his only son Isaac on an altar as a sacrifice to God. The more tyrannical and hateful the teacher, the more appealing the fear route. The Monstrous Actions of an Immoral God, : 2.2. Luke 14:23 says "Compel people to come in!" The existence of such large quantities of suffering, despair, pain, of natural disasters such as earthquakes, of the death of the unborn and the immense suffering of lovers & kind-hearted people means that god is evil and intentionally creates life in order to create suffering. It would therefore create maximum confusion, and maximum suffering, through war and intolerance. ... And they burnt the city with fire" and looted all they could. It’s a lesson that’s as true for us today as it was for God’s faithful who have wrestled with evil and suffering for thousands of years before us. Stephen Fry: God is ‘evil, capricious and monstrous’ Comedian’s remarks during Gay Byrne interview surpass two million YouTube hits Sat, Jan 31, 2015, 15:26 Updated: Sat, Jan 31, 2015, 16:06 His method of protection was to send out his two virgin daughters and tell the crowd they could do as they pleased with them. Religious texts have strongly veered towards the lesser of the two approaches, reflecting human values at the time of their writing. Evil-skeptics believe we should abandon the concept of evil. Good and Evil as Flexible Most of us lie somewhere between the extremes of Gandhi and Hitler on the spectrum of human behavior. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. It is so daft that the Qur'an makes fun of it in Sura 31:19 - "indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys". God must be immoral, if it punishes innocent people for sins they do not understand and could not resist. It seems that when it comes to good parenting, it is not to the Christian God that we should look!”, "Noah, the Ark and the Flood, from the Bible Book of Genesis: 7.2. One such doubled story shows us clearly that the Old Testament God is evil, and Satan itself is not a separate being, but is actually part of God, a face of God. Also, his children and animals are all slaughtered too, as collateral damage1. An ancient form of Christianity was preached by Marcion, who realized that the God of the Old Testament must be Evil. Hades is a god that was misunderstood. His attitude toward women is like “Norman Mailer on a bad day.”. God creates these things directly. Atheists, skeptics and other critics of Christianity often argue against God on the basis of the reality of evil and suffering. And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them". But once you get in the mind-set, it becomes quite easy and delightful to read. Fortunately for us, we have learnt much about human neurology and we know many of the physiological and neurological causes of visions (see: Experiences of God are Illusions, Derived from Malfunctioning Psychological Processes). That all life exists in a food chain means that life is completely tied to death, and such a barbaric biological cycle could only have been made by an evil god. But if you don't have time to read the Bible, then you can just read Good Book because it will give you all the good stuff of the Bible but it's much shorter. Rather, what we call evil is nothing more than the absence of good. How can a good god even have evil thoughts, let alone do evil actions? ", "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.". Revelation 21:1-27 ESV / 3 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful. He wanted to take care of his father until he died, and then follow Jesus. These two stories tell us that obediance and male honour are valued far ahead of the protection of the family; rape of young daughters and child murder are both preferable to disobeying voices in your head, and risking your male guests from being mobbed. Exodus 22:18 has been used as the basis for murdering women accused of all manner of daft superstitious things ("thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"). 2. ", "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD do all these things." But I think I'm a better Jew in one sense. As a reader and as a Jew it was disturbing to find that this God was not a God of love and mercy and justice. It is not a creation of mankind, nor of fallen beings or Satan. But if you're a Jew, you don't have that. All #tags used on this page - click for more: #christianity #determinism #evil #evil_god #free_will #free_will_and_god #genocide #god #god_communication #hinduism #islam #judaism #life #murder #philosophy #religion #religion_fear #religions #religious_violence #sectarianism #suffering #the_bible #theodicy #theology #violence. Good Book is a mercilessly funny one; imagine Sunday school taught by Jackie Mason. Published by Elm Tree Books/Hamish Hamilton Ltd, London, UK. It was common in old religions (Hinduism, Roman religions, etc) for gods to have multiple faces, each associated with different emotions. The crucifixion did not empower God as God is omnipotent. The Bible (NIV). God certainly makes people do awfull things aswell as good things e.g. If you're Christian, the New Testament resolves that; God is much more merciful and good and just. Century Media Records 2014. 6:13, 10:12, 10:20, 1 Sam. See Also: God and Satan Are Both Jerks , Devil, but No God , Neglectful Precursors , Jerkass Gods for when the deities are not really evil but just neglectful, Abusive Precursors for when this so called creator is beyond just guilty. I believe that all evil comes from GOD and good. 3:11) and to teach them (Prov. The Book of Lamentations confirms that free will cannot stop evil, when evil comes from God, nor can man stop goodness, when goodness comes from God: “Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.”, “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”. God creates the universe twice. God allows evil to occur partly for reasons we do know and partly for those we do not. Then he is malevolent. But Eden can be bliss, and Plotz’s determined innocence informs Good Book: The Bizarre, Hilarious, Disturbing, Marvelous, and Inspiring Things I Learned When I Read Every Single Word of the Bible. Violence and Murder Endorsed in the Old Testament, The endorsements of violence, mass murder and rape & pillage are dramatic, and are conducted under the direct commands of God for the betterment of the believer's religion, many times where God leads by murderous example, ancient form of Christianity was preached by Marcion, who realized that the God of the Old Testament must be Evil, Some think that the New Testament is nicer than the OT, the NT still endorses violence and murder. It encapsulates one of the worlds oldest and toughest thoughts, that if there is a God, He must be evil or unable to do anything about evil. “Very well,” God replied. God and Goodness: Can a Perfectly Good God Exist? For this reason, the "fear God" parts of the Bible are probably best considered to be a human construct, rather than the demands of a good god. There are many morals in the Bible that offer very poor advice and which also manage to contradict other moral instructions. Jacob is a family name in [my wife] Hanna’s family. If God did exist and was evil, it would undoubtedly lie and tell everyone it was a good god and that it loved them. God and Satan are intertwined. “See,” they say, “since evil and suffering exist, God must not exist.” And James 1:13 tells us that God will not tempt us with evil. wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? He wanted to know who truly cared for Him. Is God Love? Group solidarity comes into effect: when you have enemies, you keep a closer grip on your friends and also reinforce your own group identity. God cannot stop evil and suffering because He is powerless Of course, this does not stand up to biblical truth. When you start it, it’s very forbidding because the language is so different, the rhythms are different, the stories don’t follow progressions—things double back on each other in ways that don’t make sense. Isaiah 45:7 affirms that God creates darkness and disaster. After giving birth to Hestia, Demeter, and Hera, Hades was born. In case we doubt God's judgement of Lot, Lot then goes and has children by both of his daughters. New edition now published as part of the “Very Short Introduction” series. #christianity #genocide #murder #religion #religious_violence #the_bible #violence. It is God itself: “[Job's friends and family] comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him.”. God allows evil to occur partly for reasons we do know and partly for those we do not. What does this teach us? The parables of Jesus are famous for two reasons. Because of His goodness, God abhors sin and will judge it some day (Romans 2:5). 2014 Jan 25: Added comments on the story of Job. In Genesis chapters 18 and 19, Lot is rescued from destruction by God's actions for his noble and commendable actions. It’s a lesson that’s as true for us today as it was for God’s faithful who have wrestled with evil and suffering for thousands of years before us. That’s very weird. Victims have been anyone who disagreed even on confusing technical points of Christian doctrine, members of other religions such as Muslims and Jews, "witches", homosexuals, and finally, a small number who have genuinely plotted against the Church. Almost all major Greek divinities are bad or have done bad things, save for Athena and Hestia (aka the only good and sane ones). The flip side is Satan is Good . God made Lucifer a good angel, but with the power to change himself through pride into the one we now know as Satan. It is only with the Christian God who is the universal standard of moral truth, can we then judge what is good and bad. I was at my cousin’s incredibly boring bat mitzvah, and I opened [the Bible] at random to the story of Dinah and read the story about how she’s raped and the rapist wants to marry her. When he wrote a worrying article entitled. 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